The One with Spirit Calling & Pamela Downes

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And I would like to welcome my very, very special guest, Pamela Downs.

She is the creator of Spirit Calling, which from what I can gather is a membership to where you can kind of discuss your spirituality, find your sole purpose, your own spirit calling. So Pamela, why don't you introduce yourself and tell everyone if I'm correct.

Pamela Downs: 00:01:15

Yeah, Tara, you're correct. You are correct. Hi. I'm so happy to be here with you today. And yes I am. I am a psychic, intuitive and trans channeler.

reat Council of light. And in: 2020

And I woke up the next morning and I bought the domain, I set it aside and I started hearing over the course of a year that I am to create a portal for humankind. Now back, back four years ago, I was like a humankind. That's quite a big calling. I was like, that's kind of a big word.

But I heard that there's going to be an event and there's going to be a glass ceiling that's broken and people are going to stop in their tracks and not know who they are and what they've believed in in their world is going to be completely different than what they thought it was. And they're going to wake up in an instant and they're going to, they need a place to, they need a safe place to land.

And so I saw one night again about a year later, the logo come down in a vision and land on an iPhone screen. And I said, oh my God, that's it. That's the spirit calling out a year ago. That's the portal for humankind. This is what it looks like.

And so we launched eight months ago in January of this year.

And it's an absolutely beautiful place where people can explore their spirituality and they can ask questions and they don't get labeled and they can have like conversations about things and share their deepest like desires and questions and experiences. And, and it's for me to see someone on the other side of like a zoom screen telling me, I can't believe we have this place.

Pamela, thank you for creating it. I mean, it makes my heart well up. You know, it's like the most beautiful full circle moment for myself because I didn't know what it was at the time.

I just listened and I tell everyone who says that to me, I'm just listening, just like you are. You listen to come here and you're on your, your path. I'm on my path too. And we're all doing this together.

Tara (Host): 00:03:32

I love that. That's beautiful. I have a story that I tell people about.

I had a very, very close friend of mine pass away and I had this woman that I work with come up and she also channeled messages and she's like, listen, he's got this message for you and he's not going to let you sleep until you get it. And the message was to just listen. Just listen to the universe.

Pamela Downs: 00:03:53

Yes, just listen.

Tara (Host): 00:03:54

So I love this story. This is amazing. And I can't believe it's only been, what, what did you say? Eight months? Eight, nine months.

Pamela Downs: 00:04:01

Eight months. We birthed. And, you know, it took a long time, just like making a baby.

I had to work with someone to understand the interface and to create because I had never. I'm a marketer. I have a marketing and branding firm. I've been in marketing my entire career. That's where that creative, intuitive stuff comes in.

And I've always serving clients, tapping into people's visions for their business, for their futures. But I didn't really know what a portal was, nor had I done a lot of learning platforms and things like that.

So I really had to dive deep into number one. What does the spiritual awakening process look like? I had to reflect back on mine.

I mean, we're still going through it, but I'm talking about the very beginnings. What was happening to me, My life was changing.

Normally some people have what I call their knockdown or life changing, perspective shifting experience that opens everything up and maybe a little crack in your reality starts and you start digging and digging and you want to know more and more and more. What were the things I wanted to learn more about? What was my unique healing journey about? I started experiencing modalities.

I started doing energy work. So I was able to reflect on the big whys, the big questions. And then I was able to like kind of map out, oh, this is what I did, this is what I.

And I mean, it's kind of beautiful. Beautiful in retrospect to be able to look at that and now be able to serve people and experience it with them.

Because we created that experience, then we had to build it from the very moment of conception, starting to put pixels together and build and program this thing. I knew it couldn't just be on this little, you know, white labeled, like WIX site or something. I knew, right, needed to be built to be able to scale.

It had to be able to scale because I knew how many people were coming. And so that took a lot of faith.

It took a lot of investment in something that was, and it still does take a lot of investment in time and funding and in energy. But it's something that I. I am so confident about. Like, I've.

I've done so many acts of, like, knowing that this is what I'm supposed to be doing, showing through energetic conviction to the universe that I am here to do this for humankind. I am here for everyone. I am doing this because I see the vision. I trust the vision.

And now to see people coming, you know, I birthed a baby and the baby's eight months old. It's true.

Tara (Host): 00:06:39

I do agree that there's. And I think a lot of people are aware of this. They can feel. It's like it's palpable.

It's like a global awakening, you know, and from an astrologer point of view, you know, obviously we entered the dawn of Aquarius, which makes sense. It's a huge awakening.

And I just, I love that I hear so many more people like talking about it and, you know, just saying like the word trans channeling, people aren't like weirded out by it anymore or anything.

Pamela Downs: 00:07:09

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:07:09

But that brings me to my next question. For people who don't know what it is, how would you describe what trans channeling is?

Pamela Downs: 00:07:17

Great question. And I'll start by saying that when we were starting my social team and I starting to promote the platform, we were promoting the platform.

We weren't promoting me and my work, we were promoting the platform. And I had this realization about two or three months ago when I went to visit another trans channeler on a trip that I was called to go to.

And I got to actually speak with him and I said, where are the people? Why aren't they coming? Where are they? And he looked at me and he said, you are the portal. You are the platform. Not this place you created. You are.

And when I started realizing that I had to put me and the messages of the great Council of Light out there at the forefront, I Had to realize that trance channeling is just what you said. It's not a word that everybody maybe had known about. They're starting to know about it. It's not a hashtag that's being used.

People use intuitive guide. People use channel. They use like they, they don't say trans channeling. So for, for your audience and people who aren't familiar with that term.

I've done so much trauma work in this lifetime to help me release and rebuild my sou energy body. Every time I've done that work and it's incredible, really hard work that I get to do because I choose to do it.

Every time I do that, I'm able to repair my energy body a little bit more. It's like one of those, you know, porcelain dolls that breaks and there's all these little pieces.

I'm putting back the pieces and rebuilding that energy structure. And every time I do, my vibration raises up a little more, my vibration raises a little bit more.

So my frequency heightens and it heightens and it heightens.

ne that so many Times that in: 2020

I am an open vessel and I'm able to kind of not close my consciousness and my, my awareness off, but I kind of move it to the side. And I am so familiar with these, these guides that I channel. They're super high frequency. A vibration of love that's just beautiful.

And I can talk all about vibrations and frequencies and experiences. For those who aren't sure of that and have questions about like how do you know? I'll tell you all about that.

But when they come in, they come in and they, they literally I could feel them come into my body. I can feel them ease in and then I kind of move to the side and I allow them to. I automatic write.

So I close my eyes like this and my fingers just type like fast and furiously. And then when I'm done, I open my eyes. I'm sort of in a state and there's like this incredible message there, information that I don't know myself.

I've. I tap into people's spirit guides. I can channel messages that are just for them when I work with them one on one.

And they're things I love it you don't even know. Yeah, there are things you don't even know. They might be your innermost desires. You've not never spoken to of anyone.

Experiences you may have had, you've never spoken to anyone. Things that you are thinking, you're, you're, you know, you're pondering.

Things that you don't even know that you need to know come out and it's amazing.

And so that I also am able to bring them in and I speak and I don't know if you know, Abraham Hicks or Lee Harris or Bashar or any of the, of the trans channelers that are more popular. I'm able to do that as well. I just started doing that publicly the last two or three months. So I was doing that inside of my community.

I was doing that in safe spaces. I wasn't doing it publicly eight weeks ago.

The message to my community members and the message to me was get out of your safe spaces, start sharing your knowledge. People need to know about frequency. They need to know about vibration.

They need to know about the visions and mission, the visions and premonitions and downloads that you've been having for the last four years. Pamela, you need to share your visions of the future. You need to share the messages we're giving you.

Because I've always known that I am going to be communicating messages real time out to the masses as there's things happening on our planet. I've always seen it.

I always would say, I don't know if it's TikTok or YouTube, I don't know if it's TikTok or YouTube, but I see myself putting a message out. And then overnight there's. There's thousands of people in my platform. There's thousands of people. Well, that started about eight weeks ago.

My most recent TikTok has 80,000 views. And you know, it's because people are feeling something shifting. People are seeing our world being unraveled.

People are seeing a reality that they always knew was there and something was off, but they couldn't quite put their finger on it. It's presenting itself to them now. And they're seeing these realizations. They're seeing all of what's beneath and behind the veil. Right?

And you know, we're in a season right now on our planet. Like you said, we're moving into October. We're in the second day of October.

I've been receiving a lot of downloads for this month of what is going to happen before November 5th.

And you know, it's getting concreted by you know, astrologers and, you know, different readers and people in the media who are saying that, like, this is a month. This is a huge month. And it really is.

Just by the way the planets are aligned and just by, you know, what's there scientifically, but also energetically, the chaos is building, just like the guide said. Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:13:25

Do you realize that we are doing our interview, like you said, on October 2nd, and it's a new moon, but it's also a solar eclipse, so it's very powerful stuff right now.

Pamela Downs: 00:13:36

Yeah, it's really powerful.

Tara (Host): 00:13:37

And I also wanted to mention that I don't know if you realized, but you have a lot of number eights. So I have this. This habit. I. I take notes when people speak. So your spirit calling has been around for eight months.

Eight weeks ago you got another download, a very important one. And your recent, you had 80,000 views on a post. So I think there's something to that. Maybe pay attention to the number eight.

Pamela Downs: 00:14:04

Thank you. I love that. That's awesome. That makes my arm. I get like this little fever on my arm.

Tara (Host): 00:14:09

I know. It gives me tingles.

Pamela Downs: 00:14:11

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:14:15

Yeah. When you were talking about trans channeling, a thought came to me that I think a lot of people, I think everyone actually has this ability.

I just think a lot of people haven't tuned into it or they. They don't know what they're hearing, what they're supposed to listen to. You give some advice to. To.

I guess I don't want to say laymans, but to an everyday person as to how they can just listen a little bit more and clarify what they're hearing.

Pamela Downs: 00:14:45

Absolutely. And actually the word layman's terms is my mission. And I realized that this year.

I realized that, you know, I used to be connected with, you know, spiritualists that are creating impact in the world, that are in big groups with fancy names. And I'd be on calls with them and they're, you know, they speak in a way that I don't. And I used to say, okay, like, you know, I'm not them.

And this isn't like I. Not that I was comparing myself to them, but I was learning my gauge and I was understanding why I'm here and what my purpose is.

I am here to help the layman. I am. I am here to help people understand the basics. It's almost kindergarten level. There is spirituality. And that's exactly right because they.

I was channeling one day and boom, they just gave me this course and they told me they want me to teach people about vibration.

And they gave me a very elementary scale, a measure, an exercise for people to be able to do, to witness the difference, to be able to change their frequency and work on their individual frequency. Because the guides say that there is a shift coming to the planet and we're here now.

And yes, we all have individual timelines, we all have probabilities and outcomes, but we are an individual frequency that lives in a three dimensional reality and we are part of a single frequency which is us. And we are part of a collective frequency and we live in a three dimensional reality.

So the more that we can elevate our frequency, work on our vibration, the better time we're going to have living in this dimension, living in this density. So the guides really have been emphasizing for the last eight months it's important to pay attention to what you're paying attention to.

What are you spending your hours doing? What are the conversations that you're having? What are you consuming in the news and media? Is it serving you? Is it serving your highest and best?

They want you to look at my palm. Hold yourself in high regard. Put yourself in your little palm as if you're, as if you're watching your baby self.

You're watching a little baby that you have to take care of. You're watching it from harm, you're watching it from everything. They want you to do that for yourself. Pay attention. Hold yourself in high regard.

Watch the food that you're consuming. Are you doing things just because you're passing the time and it's nonsense? Are you fighting? Why are you fighting?

Pay attention and protect your energy.

There's no reason for you to sit in a dinner party and sit there and talk about politics and get all upset and fight and take on other people's energy. Why? That's what they're talking about. They really are. They're saying hold yourself in high regard. House yourself from all of that nonsense.

Because it started in June, they said that the summer was going to escalate and escalate and escalate. July was going to be a sea of chaos in one direction and a sea of chaos in the other. All eyes upon it.

Those of us who are working on our frequency and elevating our vibration are going to rise above it. We're going to be in creation mode, we're going to be in collaboration mode.

We're going to be seeing the right places, the right things, the right people show up at the right time. Our opportunities are going to buttoned up and new things are going to start that's what happened in July.

That's what happened for me and many people that I know. And you're shaking your head. The others. Sea of chaos. The sea of chaos. Sea of chaos.

They said by the end of the summer, it's going to be sheer madness. It's what's happening now. They're throwing all these stories out in the media. They're keeping your attention hook, line and sinker.

You know, you need to focus on yourself. Who cares about what's happening, but witness it without falling into the pool of it is what they want you to do.

And then they said the fall is going to be sheer chaos as we get closer and closer to November. So your frequency is your independent vibration. Like I said before, I did a lot of work on my soul, body, which is my. Which is my frequency.

When you start your spiritual awakening journey, when you start discovering, it starts out with a crack, a scratch. You look at it, you're being pulled. Something says to you, this doesn't feel right. I'm going to go in this direction. That's listening to your spirit.

That's one tiny little movement. Listening to your spirit. You keep on choosing, listening to your spirit, and you watch things fall off. You watch new people come in.

You watch your life get better, and you watch the evidence of making those loving choices present themselves more and more and more. And your life gets better and new people come in and opportunities come in, and you start to see things.

What happens also on your spiritual awakening journey is you start understanding the law of attraction. You start understanding that you're creator and manifester of your. Of your reality.

You start understanding what serves you and what doesn't serve you. You, you start seeing the right people, the right places. You start listening, you start making choices. You say you want a better life.

You see, then you watch your life fall apart. It's because you asked for it. You have to start asking for all the right things. You start to learn all of that stuff, right?

And then, then you start to say, oh, what is this? What are the chakras? What is reiki? And you just, you start your healing journey.

And you don't know you're starting a healing journey, but you're starting to have these experiences. And then, you know, I mean, I could talk for hours about these different things that happened to me.

And they, they opened up my chakras and they opened up my chakras and they opened up my chakras. And the more you're doing that, you're healing, you're opening yourself up. To more divine guidance. To hearing, you know, information.

To seeing, hearing, knowing, feeling, sensing. And, you know, it's this. It's this amazing winding path. And it's not unicorns and rainbows and sunshine. It's not. It's hard choices. It's. It's.

Tara (Host): 00:20:52

I. I almost feel like what I usually tell people is like, it's. It's literally learning to just listen to your first instincts, you know, following.

Pamela Downs: 00:21:01

Absolutely.

Tara (Host): 00:21:02

And you're absolutely right about all these distractions. I almost feel like we're just distracted to death. Like, you know, just stop, turn. Turn off the tv, turn off the social.

Like, really tune in and pay attention and.

Pamela Downs: 00:21:16

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:21:17

You feel it. You just feel it.

Pamela Downs: 00:21:19

Yeah. You're taught not to.

Tara (Host): 00:21:21

Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Pamela Downs: 00:21:23

You're taught not to. You're not taught to use your. To use your pineal gland. You're not taught to listen to that gut feeling. You're not taught to ask for guidance.

You're not taught to be the omnipotent. You connected universally to all that is. You're not taught any of that. You're dumbed down. You're taught the extreme opposite of that.

So it's a remembrance. It's really. Your spiritual awakening journey is a remembrance to all of that. It's beautiful, and it's never ending.

Tara (Host): 00:21:58

Very beautiful.

Pamela Downs: 00:22:00

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:22:00

I. I love how you describe it as, like, you know, just kind of scratching the surface. And then you.

Do you find yourself going down this spiritual rabbit hole.

Pamela Downs: 00:22:09

Yes.

Tara (Host): 00:22:10

It's like a world. Like a roller coaster ride. One of my favorite manifestation stories ever is I had just learned about the law of attraction. And I.

I thought I start with a simple little experiment, that I wanted to see butterflies. So I was like, okay, let's pick a color. Well, all day, I couldn't decide if I wanted to see blue or yellow butterflies. I couldn't make up my mind.

And at the end of the day, I was kind of upset because I didn't see any blue or yellow. I just kept seeing green butterflies. My husband was like, tara, yellow and blue make green. I got exactly. Exactly what I asked for.

Pamela Downs: 00:22:46

Did. That's so funny. And it's so true. It's so true. You were mixing those colors up in your mind, in your energy field. You didn't even know it, you know?

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:22:59

So what is the most unexpected lesson that you have learned from building not only a spiritual community, but an online spiritual community community? Excuse me?

Pamela Downs: 00:23:09

Oh, good question. That I'm a teacher and I didn't really know. I have been told many Many, many times. Most recently the last 10 years, I guess.

And when I had my very first, you know, I thought like, if I could just back that up for a moment.

When I created Spirit Calling, it was with the highest intent to create a place for people to be able to share, grow, explore and have community for each other. It wasn't about me being a teacher. It wasn't about any of that.

And I actually had a partner for six months who Spirit put in my place to help me build this. And. And then she left and it was. I had to reposition it just to be me.

But it was because Spirit knew I was building a different business and knew I needed to keep this moving for like. It's just beautiful. It's absolutely beautiful what happens. You have no idea what's happening at the time.

And when I started this journey, you know, I was called to go do ayahuasca. I didn't know a damn thing about ayahuasca. I was on the rabbit hole, you know, where did Jesus go for all those years? And. And what are the chakras?

And like all of the shit going on rabbit hole journeys, you know, I mean, other people were watching like Netflix and I was in YouTube for hours and hours. You know, my kids were in bed and my husband at the time, know who, what he was doing. But I was like, wanted to know, I wanted to learn.

I wanted to learn. And when I saw this video about this man, Gerald Powell, who was a sex addict, alcohols, drugs, gambling, he was all these things.

And it's a long story that I won't, I won't get into, but he had an ayahuasca experience that healed him of everything. Revealed trauma that he had in his childhood from his grandfather, and he healed himself. He was a hotelier who was creating resorts his whole life.

But he took all of himself and all of his knowledge and his tool belt and created now these like world class healing centers with ayahuasca medicine. Yeah. So when I saw it, there was something inside of me and my Claire's were starting and I saw it and I was like, I'm going there.

You know, I wasn't saying this to anybody else. I was saying it to me. I was like, I know that I'm going there. That is where I'm going to go. And Spirit knows me.

Spirit knows that I need to know why used to perform. And so I would have to go in my performing days and be on stage.

If I was going to be somewhere new, I'd have to go visit it go see the space, go see the backstage, Go know how I was going to come in. Like, I had to have it all ready in my head. And this place that I went to had, like, the most amazing onboarding process.

There were doctors, there were hospitals next door. There was. It was actually being shut down to the general public. And I was invited by this beautiful person who.

They lifted me up and brought me into this, like, tiny little group of spirit spiritual leaders. And I had the most amazing ayahuasca journey and experience that I couldn't even have known that that would ever be an option for me.

It was the most beautiful thing. But when I went there, at the end of that journey is when all my Claire's opened everything.

And at the end of that journey, it was four days of working with ayahuasca and doing, releasing trauma and healing my energy body. But the last day, we did a breathwork class, and this white light came through my third eye, filled out my whole body.

I heard crackle, crackle, crackle. Like, my body was buzzing. I was crying. And then I heard, your psychic abilities have been enhanced.

Everything from this day forward will be different. And that journey led me to being able to channel.

you can do this shit, because: 2020

Tara (Host): 00:27:17

Were you. Were you a little bit intimidated by some of these messages and knowledge that you were receiving?

Pamela Downs: 00:27:23

Yeah, in: 2020

And I went and there were a bunch of practitioners working on people on a table for 30 minutes. And you paid like 40 bucks and you got to get Reiki.

Well, I was the last one of that session, of that experience, and I have five or six women working on me. And suddenly there's all this welling, welling, welling, welling, welling, welling happening in my chest. And they broke my heart.

They just got rid of everything in there, and I started howling and crying. They did something to my heart. They. They released my heart chakra.

So that happened first, then that happened again several years later when I went down to a Reiki retreat. I didn't know why I was Being called to go. I didn' want to learn Reiki, but I kept hearing, you're supposed to go. I went. And I learned about energy.

I learned about chakras. I learned about me. I didn't learn about working on other people. I learned about me. At the end of that experience, there was an attunement ceremony.

I had the same exact thing happen in my throat chakra. I had a past life experience happen. I was being hung. There was foam coming out of my mouth.

It was like the most excruciating, scary experience that opened up this. This channel. And I still have last pieces of this, which I can tell you about in a minute. But all of that was, like, leading me up to.

To this, to this day. To what? To the work that I'm doing now. Also on the other side of that, I was trained classically in piano as a Kim. I always knew that I can sing.

Yeah, I always knew I could sing. I. I always knew that I had a tremendous voice. My mother wanted me to be an opera singer, but I just didn't want to.

My neighbor was an opera singer and kept saying that she has a voice. She has a voice. And I was like, I don't want to do that.

But I started singing when I was 37, and then I started singing in a band, and then I was performing on stage with a bunch of people. We were in a big band, which a lot of us, and I was scared to perform. I was scared I would forget the lyrics. I was scared.

But I was with this beautiful group of people who was. We were all doing it for fun. We didn't get paid. We were doing it for fun. I was being trained to get out there on stage.

I was being trained to use my throat chakra, like, really literally. I never knew that. I didn't know any of that, but that. That's what all of that was for.

Tara (Host): 00:30:01

It. Isn't it crazy, though? Every. Everything's like. I don't want to say hindsight 20 20, but I love just.

It is like, when you can look back on that and see how it just all weaved together to make this beautiful experience and imagine where it's heading now, you know?

Pamela Downs: 00:30:16

Yes.

Tara (Host): 00:30:16

Like, we don't know. We don't know, but.

Pamela Downs: 00:30:18

No, we don't.

Tara (Host): 00:30:19

You just gotta listen and just have faith, like you said. I love that. Have faith.

Pamela Downs: 00:30:24

on me again like they did in: 2020

s they were, I knew that when: 2020

What am I going to be doing? You know? And I'm open to it. Because when you start to reveal your soul's purpose, this is to everyone. You can't deny it.

There's no saying they don't feel like doing this today.

Tara (Host): 00:31:21

It's.

Pamela Downs: 00:31:22

It's just not. Like, what am I supposed to say? I don't feel like doing this spiritual community anymore.

Like, I'm just going to ignore the fact that I can channel angelic beings and all different kinds of beings and have psychic dreams, and I just want to go back and we'll go to TGI Fridays and get some burgers. Like, I. You know what I mean? Like, you're not gonna. That would be. Like, you can't.

Tara (Host): 00:31:42

I know. I don't feel like healing with my hands. I'm done, you know.

Pamela Downs: 00:31:46

Right. Yeah. I tried this. Not for me.

Tara (Host): 00:31:49

Yeah.

Pamela Downs: 00:31:50

I'm gonna go work in the bazaar. I'll see you, Mother.

Tara (Host): 00:31:55

Yeah, it doesn't work that way.

Pamela Downs: 00:31:57

No. It's funny that you say that, because the Messiah or no, the Chosen.

There's a show called the Chosen, and I watched that recently, and he was just doing miracles. He was just performing little miracles, you know, according to their version of his story privately, which is also in the Bible.

And then when it came to that wedding, when he had to create wine out of water, his mother asked him, jesus, please, this is going to shame the family. Like, please. And he said, mother, I can't. I haven't done this. Like, I'm not ready. And she said to him, in this exact show, if not now, when?

And he just looked at her, and I was like, I'm not gonna curse. Can I curse? I was like, me. If not now, when? Yeah, I was like, me. I was like, if Jesus had to do that, all right, me, I'm gonna go channel live.

Who cares what people think? Like, you know what I mean? I was like, check it out.

Tara (Host): 00:32:57

That's great.

Pamela Downs: 00:32:58

Oh, you have to. It's so great. I've always had this connection.

Tara (Host): 00:33:01

Jesus had to do it.

Pamela Downs: 00:33:02

So can I. Yeah. What would Jesus do? Jesus would do it. That's what Jesus would do.

Tara (Host): 00:33:14

He gave Nike their motto. Just do it.

Pamela Downs: 00:33:17

Just do it, man. Just do it. Yes, he did. All right, if you.

Tara (Host): 00:33:21

Yeah. I used to tell my kids that when they were younger and they, like, were upset about doing chores, I'd be like, just be like Nike and just do it.

Pamela Downs: 00:33:28

Come on, just do it.

Tara (Host): 00:33:32

If you could give your past self one. Excuse me. One piece of spiritual advice, what would it be?

Pamela Downs: 00:33:42

Oh, you know, that's a hard one, because you'd want to. You'd want to make your life easier, but everything led you to here and now in. In the way it was meant to be. So that's a hard one. I would.

I know my younger self. As a child, I lacked confidence. You know, my father was abusive and I didn't have that strong male foundation growing up.

It was my grandfather was that. My God was. Jesus was.

They were, like, who I revered, you know, like, as far as, like, knowing they were there for me and saying that I really didn't have confidence as a kid. I would, but I had to have that experience, Tara. It's like that my dad came here, contracted to be that to give me that contrast, to make me learn.

And him dying actually sparked my spiritual awakening journey. So, I mean, it was all perfect.

And all the fear that I had stepping up to do ayahuasca, all the fear that I had, like, having to leave my marriage because I knew my contract was over, and I kept hearing it was over, like, that's the fear I needed to release. And I'm still releasing fear. And so I would say, you know, I wouldn't change anything, but I would.

I would just say to maybe like, relax a little bit because I. I have a tendency to spiral with my thoughts as the empath and as the. I get. I get so invested emotionally. So maybe that would be my answer.

Just relax. Just relax.

Tara (Host): 00:35:24

That's good. I think that's good advice for anybody.

Pamela Downs: 00:35:27

Yeah, I guess I need to take my own advice.

Tara (Host): 00:35:32

All right, so now can you tell me, like, something funny or light hearted that you experienced in. In one of your spiritual journeyings or your channelings, something kind of funny or light hearted that happened, that you were like, why?

Why is this happening?

Pamela Downs: 00:35:51

Why is this happening? When I would, oh, I'll tell you something funny when. So my.

My friend Dina, who I told you about, the business partner who left that whole night before she left I kept hearing all night long, you're going to have a separation of the. Of the partnership. You're going to dissolve the partnership. You're going to write up a new agreement. I woke up and that's what happened that day.

Well, that day this woman who I didn't even know yet decided to. This other woman decided that she could no longer work at her company because it wasn't serving her.

She walked away from her corporate position having never done that before in her life. She found me on a podcast was called. Called. Called. Called. Called to reach out to me, to come to the community.

We became best friends, the best of friends. Like two weeks after this separation. I know. And she's, she's. It's an incredible story. This is what happens all the time. But Spirit put life well.

We've found each other again. There's four of us. We call ourselves the Ignited Four.

And we are here now to represent, you know, this and support this shift that's happening globally. But anyway, she has been here to help me move through my fear of channeling live. So we met for the very first time, the best of friends.

We met for the first time. We traveled out to Colorado to meet these other two for the four, the Ignited Four. We were in the hotel room.

She's like, we need to have a channeling session. We need to have a channeling session to practice.

So she and I are in this hotel in Boulder, Colorado and she's asking me questions and her guide, this mat praying mantis guide comes through and he. He speaks like this. He's like. He's really loud. His energy is super, super, super high. And we are having the funniest exchange of I. We're.

We're laughing our asses off channeling these beings, talking at the same time laughing our asses off. Like snot coming out of our nose like. Like the funniest frickin thing. And, and we kept laughing even more because we're like, what are the.

What are the people walking in the hallways of this hotel think is going on in this room? Really? It was like, what? Yeah, they're like what? They're like, hello, room service. And we're like like all these noises coming out.

And when, when these opportunities come to channel like this many beings come. So it could be Ra Th. It could be these galactics. It can be, you know, this ma. Mother Madeline. I say Madeline, she's a friend of mine. Magdalene.

This Mary Magdalene energy comes and like so they're all different and they all sound different and like you helmet once sometimes. Yeah. They get very excited. Yeah. So it's been like.

It's been like a learning experience for me to be able to manage them and harness that energy and, you know, work with them, because they're just as excited as I am because they're able to move through me.

And the very first time that it actually happened, I was, you know, it was after covet, after the Ayahuasca, when I've been working with all these beings and frequencies. But right before that, like, I heard this energy come down, spiral, spiral, spiral, and come into the. To the back of my neck in the atlas.

And it was like, it started. It was like. I was like. It was crazy, but it was cool. And then the light language started in them. Communicate. Like they had to come in contact.

So it's a frequency. They're trying to harness each other and communicate. It's really cool.

But it can be funny and it can be difficult and, you know, it's a lot of different things.

Tara (Host): 00:39:44

So why don't you tell people more about the Spirit Calling membership and how they can join, the benefits they're going to get.

Pamela Downs: 00:39:54

Yeah. So spirit-calling.com is a beautiful spiritual community. It's a very, very low investment.

I wanted it that way so that everyone could have access to a spiritual community. I didn't want it to be something that is not approachable for people. So for that, for 25amonth, you have access to a community.

It's like a spiritual Facebook. You have events. There are like an event a week. You can't go to a spiritual event for 25. You know what I mean?

So you get four, one a week, every single month. We have this beautiful woman in our spiritual community. Her name is Nicole Gibbs. She's a licensed EKG technician. So she knows a lot about frequency.

She's also a musician, and she custom curates a beautiful sound healing for our community every single month. They're. They're actually amazing, amazing, amazingly beautiful sound healings. They're like about two hours long and they're always.

She taps into the collective. She taps into the energy of what she and I talk.

And then we happen to have the same kind of understanding of what we, the community, needs that month. And so this last month in September, it was a throat chakra, which was me coming out and sharing, you know, these messages.

Like, I didn't even tell her what I was going to be doing, doing live tiktoks and all this stuff. Like, it's just so cool. And so they get the Custom sound healing. Every month there's a resource library with videos and books that are recommended.

There are a whole group of aligned professionals that are people that I know that I've personally worked with.

So you don't have to go and ramble in this direction and that direction and try people that you don't know or you don't trust or you don't know how much you should be paying for. I have them all in the community. And then we have coursework. Some are free, some are, some you can purchase.

And then we have a live meeting room, which is like a live zoom room so people can meet all the time if they want to talk. And we have events in there, which is really, really cool. I'm trying to think what else we have. It's just a beautiful, beautiful place. Oh.

Every, every month I channel a message from the great Council of light specifically for the community. So there's always lessons in there and we have community challenges. And it's just a place where people feel safe.

It's a place where people feel loved. It's a place where people from all backgrounds, it doesn't matter what you were raised in, what you believe in, it doesn't matter.

You have questions and you want to, you want to share your concepts, your thoughts, your ideas, your experiences. This is exactly what that was created for. And then we're on YouTube, we're on TikTok, we're on Instagram. It's called Spirit Calling Pamela.

So you can get. But the most beautiful thing is you have access, constant access to me by being in the community.

So that's the lowest price point to be able to like interact with me. But you can always work with me individually. So I have three offerings for people.

They can tap into me to get a message from their spirit guides, which is what I was telling you about earlier, which is life changing. And there's some testimonial videos that people can watch if they'd like to see who's worked with me. And that's like a. Just a quick fix.

You can channel message and then I send it back to you with a report. And then there's a one on one. You can work with me. I channel a message, we meet, I break it down and we create a strategy, we talk about what it is.

And then there's also like a three month bundle where you can work with me over the course of three months and I can help you define your purpose.

I can help you through a life challenge, I can help you with your spiritual awakening journey So I love being able to support people and there's lots of options for them and the community comes with all of it. I like that you made it. If you just.

Tara (Host): 00:43:48

I. Yeah, I like that you've made it affordable, too. You know what I mean? Pretty much anyone can afford.

Pamela Downs: 00:43:54

Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:43:54

Like that price point just to get.

Pamela Downs: 00:43:56

In there and I think so, yeah. If they want to. If they're ready. If they're ready. If they're ready, you know, and if. If you're ready and you feel it, there's.

There's no pause, you know, if you're not ready, you have a pause. And so you. You feel that within yourself, you know, and the alignment has to be there, and if it's not ready, it might be ready later.

That's why it's nice to be able to be able to connect with you on social. Because it is a journey and you are on different phases of it, you know?

Tara (Host): 00:44:29

Yeah, absolutely. All right, Pamela, are you ready for some rapid fire questions?

Pamela Downs: 00:44:37

Yes, go ahead. I'm scared. All right.

Tara (Host): 00:44:42

No, these are easy. Easy.

Pamela Downs: 00:44:44

Okay.

Tara (Host): 00:44:46

What's your favorite ice cream?

Pamela Downs: 00:44:48

Oh, mint chocolate chip.

Tara (Host): 00:44:50

Oh, okay. What's your favorite holiday and why?

Pamela Downs: 00:44:56

I like Thanksgiving because there's no expectations.

Tara (Host): 00:45:01

That's good. Yeah.

Pamela Downs: 00:45:02

Just show up and eat and everybody's happy. You don't have to buy gifts and all the. I can't stand all that. Yeah.

Tara (Host): 00:45:09

All right. Coffee or tea?

Pamela Downs: 00:45:11

Coffee.

Tara (Host): 00:45:12

Coffee. Me too. I'm a coffee person. If you could have one superhero power, would it be invisibility, X ray vision, or flying? What would be and why flying?

Pamela Downs: 00:45:25

Yeah. Well, because when I was a little girl, I. I felt like I could fly, and I'd like to be able to do that.

I would wait at the corner down by the street where the driveway was, and I would go, oh, it's coming, it's coming. And the swirl would pick me up and make me fly. I wouldn't FL life.

Tara (Host): 00:45:43

That's awesome. I think I would do invisibility.

Pamela Downs: 00:45:47

Yeah, you're sneaky.

Tara (Host): 00:45:51

I am sneaky.